My purpose in bringing this up is twofold. First, it's a good place to acknowledge where we still have to come in order to make the IE driver as good as possible for the users of Selenium. Secondly, it gives me the chance to reiterate the open invitation that I've always had for anyone who'd like to review the code of the IE driver, make improvements, and submit patches. Before launching into these challenges, I need to cover a few basic assumptions about why the driver is architected the way it is.
There are a few main principles of the WebDriver project that directly impact the decisions of how the IE driver is built. They are, in roughly priority order:
- The driver should be installable with an xcopy deployment mechanism, and be capable of execution without elevating to admin permissions. Sadly, a significant percentage of the users of Selenium do not have admin access to their Windows machines, which precludes the use of a plugin (Browser Helper Object or BHO) for IE, as these require admin access to the registry at the very least.
- The driver should use "native events" to interact with elements. This means using OS-level mechanisms to simulate user keyboard and mouse inputs. These would be contrasted by "synthetic events" which are JavaScript simulations of those inputs, which have challenges with accuracy of simulation and fidelity of operation.
- The driver should not require the browser instance being automated to be the focused window in the OS. It is expressly a goal of WebDriver that developers running WebDriver code will be free to use their machines for other purposes even while that code is running in the background.
Given these three requirements then, there are two major problems with using native events in the IE driver. The first of these is that mouse clicks to the IE window get swallowed up when the browser window does not have the system focus. In this case, the element in question has a focus rectangle around it, but no click appears to have happened.
Screenshot of an element click into a background IE window |
The "flashing hover" problem |
Solving the above two problems would go a long way toward the long-term stability of the IE driver. Alternatively, if the IE team at Microsoft took over the maintenance of the driver, as the teams responsible for Chrome, Opera, and soon Firefox have done, then the true experts in the architecture of the Internet Explorer browser could bring all of their experience and expertise to bear, and help make Internet Explorer a first-class citizen in the world of automated web testing.
In fact, that would be my challenge to the IE team at Microsoft: step up, and contribute code to the IE driver. Take the existing code, and do something great and awe-inspiring with it. Become a leader in this space, instead of the lagging follower you currently are.
Amen Brother
ReplyDeleteJim,
ReplyDeleteThat brings an interesting question. Do the folks in Microsoft know about this ? Pardon me if this question sounds stupid, but have they been contacted regarding this ?
~ Krishnan
We have, at various times, reached out to Microsoft in regards to producing the IE driver, and the issues we've encountered therein. Until recently, we've gotten very little traction within the IE team itself. There has been some movement within other groups at Microsoft however, so perhaps we will see some gains in the relatively near future.
DeleteHi Jim,
ReplyDeleteIs this principle of the WebDriver project the main reason behind the 2 problems? "The driver should not require the browser instance being automated to be the focused window in the OS". If so, is it a must-have principle?
We're using other test automation tools which don't have this principle, but run good on IE. From our point of view, it is more important to be able to automate our tests on IE, than being able to run our tests while we're working on the same machine. We're willing to dedicate machines (of labs) to test automation!
If this principle is the only reason, we can argue it in the right place..
The "principle of no window focus" is the primary cause of the issues we've seen. It is an important design principle of the WebDriver project, and is codified in the WebDriver W3C standard (see http://www.w3.org/TR/webdriver/#running-without-window-focus). While I appreciate your point of view as to the priority of running without window focus, please understand that not every user of WebDriver shares it.
DeleteThe no focus Issue in IE is a real pain in the proverbial. The two hacks I have deployed with some success are as follows.
ReplyDeleteusing driver.SwitchTo() to get a handle on the browser window. As The IE driver seems to lose focus after clicking any alert /pop up window.
using javascript driver.JavaScript("window.focus()");
The javascript() method is an extension / convenience method that uses the IJavaScriptExecutor.
By the way Jim any update from the guys at Microsoft on IE driver ?
When there's something to update that I can share about Microsoft's participation in the IE driver, I'll be sure to post it publicly.
DeleteHi Jim,
ReplyDeleteI was wondering what are the pitfalls of disabling the native events in IEDriver.
Can you please name a few issues which comes when running the tests with native events disabled?
-Manjeet
Iam using Selenium Webdriver + TestNG + Firefox 17.0.5 ESR
ReplyDeleteScripts which running successfully in Firefox 17.0.5 ESR
But not working fine in Internet Explorer 8, while running in IE8 the pages are filckering and stops in the middle of the execution.
Any suggestions.
Regards
Sureshkumar